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Bruce Box-Liker - over 6 years ago
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I've created a series of flash cartoons; if you like zombie humor, check 'em out: http://www.youtube.com/user/BoneDragonComics/videos


Jacob Ivy - over 6 years ago
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Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the MST3K movie, This Island Earth? “ *Crunch* … 199, *Crunch* … 198...”


Phil Carstens - over 6 years ago
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I just watched Horrors of Spider Island again, and I'm always amazed at how horribly sexist the movie is. The women are useless, and they spend most of the movie posing for the camera and fighting over the men. I know there are quite a few movies featured on MST3K that portray women pretty badly, but can anyone think of any that are worse than Horrors of Spider Island?


Dan Rudy - over 6 years ago
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So which post-societal world would you prefer to be dominated in: a one ruled by Pearl Forrester, one ruled by Dr. Clayton Forrester, or a season seven one in which a victorious Dr. Forrester is hounded (perhaps emotionally dominated and at times overruled) by his mother Pearl?


J.D. Martell - over 6 years ago
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I'm sure you're all aware of Rifftrax (if not, what's taking you so long?). Just wanted to shamelessly advertise my own riff of Sin City, available now! Preview here: http://youtu.be/NF8KeGbzyfA


Puma Man - over 6 years ago
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So I've heard in interviews that the Mistie writers would watch sometimes hundreds of movies to find one to riff on for an episode. So how did we end up with so many Sandy Frank/Bert I. Gordon/Roger Corman/films by the same directors/producers?


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I've just been turned on to The Film Crew (post-MST, pre-RiffTrax) by some folks over at the discussion forum over at Satellite News. As I recall, they did all of four episodes of Film Crew; I've managed to snag three of them off of YouTube, and here's my personal rankings. Your mileage/tastes may vary:

1. Giant Of Marathon: the fact that it's yet another dubbed Steve Reeves ancient Greek-ish sword'n'sandal epic means, of course, that it traces its direct lineage back to MST3K. I'm watching it now; Nelson, Murphy and Corbett are up to their finest Season 8 form (and, as we know, Season 8 totally co-rules alongside Seasons 4 and 6).

2. Hollywood After Dark: Rue McClanahan stripping. That's all I really need to tell you about this -- well, except that Nelson comments that in this movie, Rue actually looks less sexy than she did on Golden Girls. The Crew really tear into this one, especially during Rue's dance scenes.

3. Killers From Space: One of the Experiments in my Fantasy Season 11. A slight disappointment, but only slight; the Crew still turn in a creditable job here. I suppose I expected much more sparkling and savage riffing due to this being a classic mid '50s cheesy-assed Grade "B" sci-fi, complete with crappy sets, stupid alien outfits, a total lack of knowledge about basic science, and, hey, Peter Graves. (Has anyone here seen the RiffTrax version?)


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My MST3K Facebook group! Hey gang, if anyone is on Facebook I think you would get a kick out of my MST3K Group where we post all kinds of links/pics/articles/videos etc all related to MST3K / RiffTrax / Cinematic Titanic and everything else related. Please consider joining you wont regret it
thanks!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximumrdmst3k/


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I'd like to make a modest proposal, which is that the Club MST3K Episode Page include the Film Crew movies. Same format as the others: embedded video, a comment thread, favorite riffs.

Here are the direct links:
Killers From Space:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzRKabCBOI0

The Giant Of Marathon:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZ961T9rxA

Hollywood After Dark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntmX1WZMmFU

Wild Women Of Wongo:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpoOKWhJFNo


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So... I was never crazy about Weinstein as Servo in Season 1, but in at least this one Season 0 episode ("SST Death Flight") he's actually pretty good. He doesn't come across as an autistic 40 year-old, like he does in Season 1.


Matt West - over 6 years ago
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Out of tribute to Ernest Borgnine I will be watching "Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders" that nice old grandpa and his darling children stories!! RIP Ernest!


Bruce Box-Liker - over 6 years ago
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The Crawling Hand, The Projected Man, Track of the Moon Beast, and Werewolf; has anyone ever noticed that there are four MST3K movies that feature monsters named Paul?


Willard Gaby - over 6 years ago
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Up until a couple of days ago, when I watched one of these videos, there was an icon at the bottom of the screen which allowed me to choose resolution. Also, when I hovered my pointer over the timeline, it would show minutes into the video and minutes remaining. Both of these are gone now. Does anyone know how to get these back?


Quinn C. - almost 7 years ago
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Can you remember the first MST3K episode you saw and where you were? Mine was Night of the Blood Beast. I was sitting in my grandparent's TV room. I got in trouble because I wasn't aloud to watch Comedy Central.


Puma Man - over 6 years ago
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Can someone please try to explain what they find in the rocket at the end of Lost Continent that climactically ties up the plot?


Puma Man - over 6 years ago
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What does Joel eat just after hitting the commercial sign button? It looks like a cookie...


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Ok, so, I have to ask, because my brain won't quit bugging me until I fill it with every bit of MST3k trivia:

What happened with Josh, Frank & Trace? Why did each of them depart when they did?

I have to guess that with Trace it was that he felt it was the end of an era once they got kicked off Comedy Central. And I've inferred from things Josh has said that he was pushed out after season 1.

Anybody have the scoop?


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SUPER EXCITING! Cinematic Titanic is now on Hulu! And none of that HuluPlus nonsense either! All ten episodes!

Started with "The Wasp Woman" tonight and it was gold. A little terrified to get to "Doomsday Machine" since I've seen that one and it may be the worst movie I've ever decided to watch (that wasn't produced by Aslyum.)


Matthew Eickhoff - almost 7 years ago
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If you could own a piece of memorabilia from the show,
what would it be?


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TV movies of the '70s: does anybody else here wish MST3K had done more of them? I really had to force myself to watch the episodes where they do '70s TV movies at first, because of my bad memories of them from when I was in high school and college, but once I saw "Riding With Death" I suddenly realized how much I loved watching the SOL Crew ripping into those horrid, cheesy TV movies that traumatized me so much in my adolescence. "Riding With Death" and "Code Name: Diamond Head" have gone on to become my favorite Experiments.


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So, I'm watching Experiment 818, "Devil Doll", now, and I'm just wondering... was William Sylvester's general career arc one of playing in the British equivalent of Grade "B" sci-fi/horror/suspense flicks, with his one breakout role as Dr. Heywood Floyd in "2001" being the exception? I mean, there's "Devil Doll", there's "Gorgo" (Experiment 909), there's some war pictures in the '50s and a spy movie or two in the '60s, and then there's "Riding With Death" (Experiment 814). I remember thinking he was really good in "2001" and expecting to see more of him, but then in the '70s he seemed to drop off the face of the Earth, until I saw him in the MSTified version of "Riding With Death".

Plus, he was American -- how the hell did he wind up in British "B" movies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sylvester


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Hey now, gang! I just got a note back from Best Brains, answering the note I sent to their contact address about the idea for the riff T-shirts. "Barbbb" wrote back that she, herself, thought they were quite nice:

"Hi Michael,
Thanks for the tee designs and suggestions! I will pass them by Jim. I guess I like the concept but the riffs you picked might be have to be changed to appeal to a broader gang o' fans. Tee's have to be ordered in so many sizes that it gets expensive to produce shirts unless they sell really well. We've been a little conservative and have introduced only a few new shirts in recent years. Anyhoo! Let me see what we can do.

Barbbb"

So, everybody, think good thoughts!
Thanks!


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The evidence mounts for the "ruling" capabilities of Season 8: Experiment 807, "Terror From The Year 5000". Everything about it is made of awesome: the movie (bad), the riffing (fast'n'furious) and the host segments (The Observers do the Ink Spots? Whoda' thunk it?). You name it, and it kicks.

THE MOVIE: Yet another Nicholson/Arkoff turdmuffin from American International, one of those rare Nicholson/Arkoff turdmuffins I never got to see on the Count Gore DeVol Show back in high school. The old scientist acts as if he's on Valium. The fiancé is such a greasy little piss-ant that I can't believe the scientist's hot daughter is engaged to him. The museum curator is such a stiff that I can't believe the scientist's hot daughter throws over her greasy piss-ant fiancé for him. Oh, yeah, and guys... the nurse/mutant chick from the Future is stacked. Shame about her face.

THE RIFFING: This is one Experiment I actually didn't catch when it first aired, so I'm actually seeing this one for the first time, so it's going to take me another viewing or two to pick out my favorite riffs. Still, as it's a Nicholson/Arkoff American International turdmuffin, Nelson and the Bots totally tear into it. I love how once they discover a character resembling Jimmy Carter -- in this case Angelo The Peeping Caretaker -- they run with it like a big dog. I also loved how they went to work on the museum curator -- Sergeant Carter/Gomer Pyle gags galore -- and really ripped the shit out of Victor, the Scientist's daughter's weasely little piss-ant fiancé. I also got a huge kick out of how they totally piled onto the scenes involving characters blithely diving into

HOST SEGMENTS: Couldn't stop snickering and snurfing at the Observers trying to explain their pointless food nuggets, or at Crow traveling back into the past to let Nelson's family know he's OK and ending up hooking up with his girlfriend. The yodeling was hysterical, except that Murphy really can yodel like a sonofabitch. The Observers crooning that old Ink Spots-ish number really killed, even if I could tell that one Observer was lip-syncing to a prerecorded Murphy vocal track. God damn, that dude can sing; he doesn't fool around. I don't recall Murphy's bio in the episode guide mentioning any musical training, but I still wonder if maybe he was in a band or something in school, because the dude really can belt it.


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So, a few threads back, we were discussing what stuff we'd like to see for sale at the MST3K Store; we had some cool ones -- die-cast models of the 'Bots, Gizmonic Institute janitors' jumpsuits, little models of the SOL -- but I had one idea that just wouldn't quit clanging around in my head, an idea for something simple, elegant, inexpensive, and something so cool that you'd have to be a true hardcore to get it: plain black T-shirts with classic MST3K riffs in bright, bold, large type with a little MST3K "planet" logo at the bottom, very small, like a colophon (as we call it in the graphic design biz).

Anyway, I had a couple of hours free this afternoon, so I broke out Illustrator and very quickly mocked up some designs for MST3K Riff T-Shirts. I'd like to invite everyone to have a look at:

http://www.sinkers.org/mst3k_riff_t-shirts_comps/riff_t-shirtcomps01.jpg
http://www.sinkers.org/mst3k_riff_t-shirts_comps/riff_t-shirtcomps02.jpg
http://www.sinkers.org/mst3k_riff_t-shirts_comps/riff_t-shirtcomps03.jpg

...and tell me if any of you would pay actual money for one of these. My next step, I suppose, would be to hit mst3k.com and try to find a contact address where I can email these proposed designs and see if BBI thinks it'd be worth it. I'm thinking... plain black T, two ink colors, no fancy color work or halftones, it'd be really cheap to produce, and I'll bet they'd clean up on all us hardcore MST freaks out here who like throwing their favorite riffs around.


Cliff Beefpile - almost 7 years ago
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I was just commenting on one of the films ("Riding With Death") and noted that Tom Servo's little trucker body was one of my favorite sight gags of the whole series. How's about yours? Just off the top of my head I can think of:

1. Servo's trucker body
2. Crow's footie pajamas
3. BIG Servo
4. Any time Crow was without his 'hair' in the theater
5. Frank's "I'm A Virgin" t-shirt
6. When the SOL and Castle Forrester came down with 'Hockey Hair'
7. Re-enactment of the "Cave Dwellers" credit sequence
8. When the Nanites went to war with Mike's eyebrow mites
9. The BIG Head
10. Joel or Mike interacting with the onscreen action


B - almost 7 years ago
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I love it when Tom sings over the music in the movie. Two of my favorites are the smooth jazzy "Best that you can do/Best of my love" during Time Chasers and "Wings of a Dove" during Boggy Creek II. Do you folks have favorite Tom singing during the movie moments?


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Knowing about Hodgson's career in stand-up, as a prop comic, I did some rummaging around on YouTube and found this footage of his appearance on Saturday Night Live, circa 1983. If you squint, you can see the germs of an idea for MST3k in this Godzilla Vs Megalon-themed bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay9JTk9Grdo


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In another thread, it's been big fun deciding what bit of memorabilia from the show we'd like to have, if we could have it. This got me thinking... if you could specify any product you wanted from the mst3k.com Web shop, what would it be?

Personally, I think they're totally missing a bet by not offering scale models of the Bots, or of the SOL. I think a 1/72 scale resin model of the SOL would totally rock. Granted, I'm one of those geeks who built a 1/72 scale model of a Saturn V when he was about thirteen, but, still...

Red jumpsuits with the checkerboard Gizmonic logo? Dayglo green Deep 13 lab jackets? Big electric green-rimmed glasses?

...Made by American workers, of course.

I'm only half joking here; there's a lot of us aging MSTies out here with fair-sized slabs of disposable income, I'm sure -- kind of like aging Deadheads (which I happen to be also).


trumpy - almost 7 years ago
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Hi keeba!! TCM is showing about 12 hours of (mainly) Japanese sci fi tonight. They had me at "bug-eating pterodactyl flies out of a coal mine." Let the riffing begin...


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Just wondering... "Zontar, The Thing From Venus": has anyone else here seen this clunker in their wasted adolescent late nights watching their local late-late show horror hosts? "Zontar" is a 1966 American International made-for-TV remake of Roger Corman's original 1956 turdball "It Conquered The World", starring the durable and brain-numbing John Agar in the role originally played by Peter Graves (ironically, by this time, Graves had risen to stardom on "Mission: Impossible"). While the scenes are played almost line-for-line, "Zontar" manages to go the extra mile to Stinkburger City owing to the neurotic scenery-chewing of the misguided scientist's wife, and Agar's excruciatingly soulless delivery of the notorious closing speech.

I originally saw this dung heap on the local Saturday night "Chiller Theater" when I was about sixteen, and rediscovered it a couple of years ago when rummaging around the archive.org Public Domain archive in search of copies of all those great old "B" sci-fi/horror flicks I used to watch on the old Count Gore DeVol show.

As I became reacquainted with MST3k, and saw its take on "It Conquered The World", I suddenly realized what a great companion piece it'd make as the second half of a double feature with "Zontar, The Thing From Venus".

If you haven't seen it yet, why not twist up a fattie, mix up a pitcher of Killer Shrews, and stream this turkey on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yejXYdA6bVs or better yet, download the mpeg4 from archive.org at http://archive.org/details/Zontar_Thing_From_Venus .