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MSTeacher3K - 17 days ago
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Hey, Rocket, didn't the host read your question during the Q & A on the Mads' show tonight? I heard him say it was from Paul Gabriel Wiener, and I recognize that name from here-that's you, right?


Rocket J. Forklift - 3 months ago
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Had to make a new account because FB login broke. Here's my original:
http://www.club-mst3k.com/msties/1086


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MST3K dreams
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Last night, I had possibly my first MST3K dream. (I almost never remember my dreams, so it's possible I've had others.) I posted about it on the ep page itself, but I thought maybe it was worth starting a thread here.

Shortly before bed, I watched Colossus and the Headhunters, the episode with Nummy Muffin Coocol Butter. I was thinking about how it was a cool little detail that poor Gypsy's allergies caused her to have a yellow, bloodshot eye. (II'm not sure how that's supposed to work, but I think it's a case of "just relax.")

I dreamed I was watching the ep again and I wanted a closer look at Gypsy. For some reason, I tried putting on polarized lenses. And somehow that enabled me to see and hear a hidden layer. The bots were communicating with each other wirelessly!

In their mindscape, Gypsy now appeared to be a humanoid girl, and she was smoking a cigarette because the comic book she was reading had an ad with a cool-looking girl like her smoking. (Come to think, I did watch The Dead Talk Back a few days ago, where Dr. F tries to use "pinpoint marketing" to get Mike to smoke Nelson Cigarettes.) Tom and Crow catch her at it and find themselves torn between telling on her and wanting to read the comic book.

That's as much as I remember. But it was a thrill to find there was this whole extra layer to the show just waiting to be discovered, and I was excited to share with you.

Have you ever had an MST3K dream?


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List of inventions predicted by this movie (none of which use RADAR):
Fish finders
Ultrasonic geological mapping
Traffic cameras
Metal detectors

Not predicted but does use RADAR:
Weather forecasting
Speed guns

Correctly predicted:
RADAR-equipped police helicopters
Marine RADAR used to detect hazards above the waterline

Already existed, but ignored by the movie:
Geiger counters


NCNL Last Week
Forum - 3 days ago
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Sadly: you have missed your opportunity to avoid commenting and laighing, as the time limit has already expired. In fact don;t even look at this photo as it is too old, and expired.


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As I went to bed last night, I was thinking about how it was a cool little detail that poor Gypsy's allergies caused her to have a yellow, bloodshot eye. (II'm not sure how that's supposed to work, but I think it's a case of "just relax.")

I guess it's not surprising that I had what I believe is my first MST3K dream. (I almost never remember even having dreamed, let alone what my dreams are, so it's hard to be sure.) I only remember a little of it. But I was watching the ep again and I wanted a closer look at Gypsy. For some reason, I tried putting on polarized lenses. And somehow that enabled me to see and hear a hidden layer. The bots were communicating with each other wirelessly!

In their mindscape, Gypsy now appeared to be a humanoid girl, and she was smoking a cigarette because the comic book she was reading had an ad with a cool-looking girl like her smoking. (Come to think, I did watch The Dead Talk Back a few days ago, where Dr. F tries to use "pinpoint marketing" to get Mike to smoke Nelson Cigarettes.) Tom and Crow catch her at it and find themselves torn between telling on her and wanting to read the comic book.

That's as much as I remember. But it was a thrill to find there was this whole extra layer to the show just waiting to be discovered, and I was excited to share with you.


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So...

Cheesesteak "rescues" these people from the destruction of their island by letting them on his raft with no food, water, or shelter. They set course for the only other island they know in the region, which is still pretty far away. They're half-dead on arrival, so he leaves them to rest while he scouts around. They are promptly captured by the natives because... uhm... why?

Anyway, Cheesesteak apparently fits the prophecy of some rescuer, which changes everything, so the princess agrees to free them all. Cheesesteak tells her he can't help her because he has an obligation to the last people he rescued (which, frankly, should warn her about the quality of his work). But as soon as they're gone, he says that, actually, he's planning to double back and help her as soon as they're safe. There is absolutely no reason he couldn't have told her that instead of making her believe he's a heartless coward. Then again, his big rescue plan for them is to just set them adrift on the raft with no supplies and nowhere to go. Seems like they'd be better off joining forces with the princess.

Kermie's guys swoop in while Cheesesteak (and a handful of the guard who went to spy on him) are gone. It does not appear that their presence would have made any appreciable difference.

Kermie, it seems, is a court noble/advisor who betrayed the king to a tribe of headhunters (or possibly staged a coup? I forget. Does it matter?) in order to become king of the golden city. Except that the battle left the city in ruins and none of the citizens will go to the city while their king is in exile. So, really, it's a rather pointless coup.

Kermie kidnaps the princess and forces her to agree to marry him by threatening her father's life. And forces her father to bless the wedding by threatening the princess's life.

Cheesesteak plays the key role of... Telling the princess's loyalists that she needs to be rescued and then wandering off. The loyalists rout the headhunters with minimal assistance from Cheesesteak, which makes one wonder why they were sitting around waiting for Cheesesteak to show up on their island in the first place.

Kermie runs away with the princess. Cheesesteak gives chase. For some reason, none of the princess's guard follow. Kermie traps Cheesesteak behind a portcullis, but when Cheesesteak stands there slowly lifting it, Kermie does not even attempt to so much as throw something sharp in his direction.

Cheesesteak kills Kermie (his one contribution to the war effort). Kermie dies at the foot of the golden throne he'd so long sought. (That's the irony you were missing, Mike.)

Cheesesteak, sensing the movie is over and that there's a need to reset things for the sequel, goes back to his raft, planning to leave everyone behind. Even though he could have stayed to help with the rebuilding effort and the princess's attraction is clearly mutual and he's got a bunch of friends there... Nope. Back to the raft and the open ocean with no other land or civilization anywhere in the region. The princess, having successfully led her people all this time, decides to quietly abandon them all, leaving them in the hands of her elderly blind father who just spent who knows how long locked in a dingy prison cell with minimal care and who has no other legitimate heir, so that she can get lost at sea with Cheesesteak (who still has no provisions). The end.

Really, you could cut Cheesesteak out of this entirely and the only difference it would make is that it would make more sense. The princess and her people escape from the coup, regroup, get ambushed and captured. The captain of the guard, who was away from camp at the time, rallies the survivors to counter-attack. Bad guy escapes with the princess, guard captain pursues and rescues her, the city is saved. Oh, and they get to keep that big wooden watchtower, which seems like it might be useful for spotting any headhunters that try to attack again. The only thing you lose is half a movie's worth of muscle-bound padding slowly walking from one place to another while the action happens elsewhere.


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My favorite part of the whole episode has got to be the chicken noises at the start of the dance.

My least favorite part of the episode has got to be the dance (which is explicitly designed to pad out the ceremony) dragging on and on with nothing from M&tB beyond groaning that, yes, it's still going on.


604 - Zombie Nightmare - over 8 years ago
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Maybe I'm just burnt out on zombies, but this episode didn't do much for me. I wish the Brains had riffed on "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare," another bizarre little microbudget Canadian horror flick starring Jon-Mikl Thor's nipples.


604 - Zombie Nightmare - 3 months ago
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For some reason the link currently isn't playing through here, it says it is "unavailable", but if you go to YouTube, it plays just fine. I wonder why that is?


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