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1005 - Blood Waters of Dr. Z



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I guess Mike doesn't like cats...
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"See, this is the reason I don't like cats." - Mike.
Mikes seems to make several comments against cats in his riffs throughout various eps, I've noticed. 😄


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Let's see if I've got the backstory right...

In the midst of the Great Depression, German scientist Dr. Johansen for some reason studied abroad at MIT. (Which does have a biology department, but not one particularly known for marine biology or ichthyology. At the time, the institute was mainly focused on things like civil engineering, mechanical engineering, and material science.)

Shortly after he earned his degree, Marie Curie (pioneer of the study of radioactivity) became the first person known to have died of radiation poisoning because the science was still new enough that people hadn't understood that it was dangerous.

Despite studying at the wrong school in the wrong country at a time when the mutagenic effects of radiation had barely even been identified, Dr. Johansen developed two mutagenic agents which, when combined, somehow became simultaneously stable and yet still radioactive. The resulting ZaAt formula was able to both mutate humans into amphibious fish and also mutate any form of ocean life. (It is not specified what the ocean life would mutate into, although he does mention a plan for an army of giant catfish monsters.)

He returned to Germany in time for Hitler's rise to power. After the war, he was employed somewhere in Germany for several years before changing his name to Leopold and moving to Florida, where the local scientific community did not take well to his desire for human test subjects (and also thought his idea of turning humans into fish was stupid). At no point was he known as Dr. Z or by any name starting with a Z.

So he became a recluse and created a grand multi-year plan. The movie begins a little over 20 years later. His giant planning board lists everything step by step. It starts off slow: Transform into a fish monster in April, kill the first guy in May, kill the second guy in June, kidnap the girl in July (in order to transform her into his mate, presumably so they can start populating the ocean with fish monsters). But apparently it picks up pace because it culminates in world domination in year 5 up at the top of the board. It is unclear why he wants or needs to take over the land-dwelling world when his plan is to occupy the other 2/3rds of the Earth.

By the end of the movie, he's killed the two guys (who are remarkably young for people old enough to have had him fired 20 years ago), begun the transformation of his second choice mate, and retreated with her into the ocean. (He didn't get the army of giant catfish, but that was because the effects crew couldn't make it work. In the original script, he succeeded. The full length original film does at one point show a catfish monster slithering along the countryside.) So it kind of seems like things are on track, even if he did lose his lab and notes?


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Having looked through a few trivia pages:

* The original movie was 100 minutes long, meaning that somehow the MST3K version cuts out 25 minutes of footage.

* The original script did indeed call for an army of giant walking catfish to terrorize the town. But filming live fish squirming over miniature sets failed to achieve anything even vaguely believable, so they had to cut that part.

* Dr. Leopold's lab and most of the underwater scenes were done at Marineland, the same aquarium theme park seen in Revenge of the Creature.

* The fish monster was supposed to suck the victims' blood (hence the leech mouth), but, again, they couldn't figure out how to make it look good, so that got mostly cut, too.

* On the other hand, the scene where the guy gets bitten by the snake was totally unscripted. The wild snake just swam up and bit him, he threw it as far away as he could, and it swam back after him before he escaped. The crew figured they had the footage, so they added it to the movie.

* The scene where he throws a tantrum and ransacks the pharmacy was supposed to include him defenestrating a chair, but they didn't have the budget to replace the window, so they had to cut that, too.

* They also didn't have the budget for proper lighting, so the night shots were lit with car headlights.

* The monster costume kept getting torn, so they had to patch it up every day at the end of filming, The 120 lb suit was noticeably heavier by the end of filming due to the accumulated patchwork.

* They also had to cut several takes where the actor in the suit kept bumping the suit's head (several inches above the top of his actual head) against tree branches that he couldn't see.

* Walking catfish are a real species. They're able to slither over mud to get from one stream to the next. At the time the movie was made, their origins were unclear, leading to some speculation in the newspapers that they might be the result of a strange mutation. (Which is what inspired the movie.) In reality, they're an invasive species. Not, as the movie scientist speculates, from Africa, but rather from Asia.

* Marshall Grauer is given top billing in the movie for playing Dr. Leopold, but he's only in that opening sequence. He did also do the voiceover narration for that scene, as well as the German exposition voice on the radio, but that's it. The bulk of the movie is the much taller Wade Popwell (one of about 10 people who responded to a newspaper ad for a tall man with scuba experience to play a movie monster, acting not required) in the role.

* Paul Galloway, who played the sheriff, had a minor role in another movie a few years later. So did one of the extras (in a different movie much later). The director had previously worked on an industrial short. Other than that, no one in the cast or crew ever worked on another movie.


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...the takes they make between the cooler of Pearl's love stuff disappearing, or appearing are impressively seamless...more-so than any other series I have ever seen employing the same cinematic effect...I wonder how they managed that...always loved everybody involved with this show, but that's pretty hard to do, and they did it several times...


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I thought this was a zoidberg episode


Jeffrey Jones - over 1 year ago
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EveL Unbound - over 3 years ago
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Wow... Sorry to say that even the riffing did nothing to help me through this one. I tried, as it was previously unfamiliar to me, but I just couldn't get through it.


Rosebud - about 7 years ago
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No one mentioned Brain Guy's makeup was removed when Pearl threw the medicine ball at his face. They must have decided that the effect looked so perfect they didn't bother to fix his makeup. Brilliant!


Jeremy423 - over 4 years ago
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This movie has a certain feel to it; it's like sleeping in pajamas made out of spoiled pimento loaf. On second thought maybe "feel" is the wrong description, maybe "residue" describes it better.


Rosebud - about 7 years ago
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Wow, two movies in one season with that 6 wheeled banana-splits dune buggy. ha.


Phil Carstens - over 7 years ago
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This is the only one I haven't gotten through. I tried a couple of times, but only managed to get ten or fifteen minutes into it before I got distracted and forgot. Then I finally sat down and decided to watch the whole thing, but the sheriff calling the biologist "boy" just completely turned me off.


Bruce Box-Liker - over 8 years ago
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Here's a question for everyone: vis a vis that knob that protrudes from Crow's beak in the first scene, do you see that as a bulging cheek full of tobacco, or a horrible tobacco-based tumor? Or something else?


Sabrina Domingues - almost 9 years ago
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Pearl's Love Stuff bucket opening skit was brilliant. I love it when Crow loses it when Brain Guy makes the bucket disappear - "No love! Love is gone! So lost... feeling panicky... no sense of self...developing stress disorder and an inability to work with others..."


Gal Dagon - about 9 years ago
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Aww, it didn't say "Fin." at the end.


pgramsey - over 1 year ago
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Doctor Z: strange guy
But writes beautiful haiku
Kill him anyway


CHOMP !
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At 1:15:10 Crow says "I hope you like your catfish hot and spicy. CHOMP!" and in Devli Fish they also say "CHOMP!" in the same Cajun accent. Is this from some kind of restaurant commercial?


Gal Dagon - about 9 years ago
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Most thrilling chase scene since the one in "The final Sacrifice."


Zeitgeist Meister - almost 4 years ago
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This movie coulda been called Redneck Zigra


Amy Xoxo - over 3 years ago
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"Enjoy a fish anus." LMFAO
This is the greatest thing to happen to TV.


Benjamin Cass - over 3 years ago
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This is probably one of the best examples of late in the series humor, the jokes are fluid and alot more spot on. Its obvious now theyve had alot of practice at this now.


Funky The Monkey - over 4 years ago
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The opening of the movie looks like Sling Blade just wondering around. This is before Sling Blade was a thing.

And no relation to Tim Burton. Not goth enough. Got the feel, but not the look.


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Michael Wallen - over 3 years ago
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"Her VW Beetle crashes through the wall, her dog at the wheel."
If the filmmakers had actually done that, it would have saved this dull mess.


Doctor Lady - about 4 years ago
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I think Dr. Z looks like a super-creepy version of Steve Carell.


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Ha! I bet most of you thought sargassum was an innocent plant, unable to communicate or even think, let alone deceive. People are so gullible.

So, what do you think it's lying about, anyway?


MSTeacher3K - about 4 years ago
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This movie sounds bad. As in, the sounds that come from it are terrible. Shrill alarms, incessant beeping, and clunky background music make the film as audibly ugly as it is visually.


Alex Stefanic - about 9 years ago
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That monster looks like it's straight out of an old school Doctor Who episode


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Thomas Bryant - almost 5 years ago
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This movie was made by a company called Bartow Films, whose studio offices was on Cassat Ave in Jacksonville behind my grandparents house. When the film released, they had the monster stand out on the road with a poster of the movie waiving at the traffic. I stood across the road on the sidewalk and waived at the monster and he waived back!


Daniel Wood - about 8 years ago
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This one doesn't have enough laughs... 11 people are watching it right now! I lose it every time when the dude is driving the lil car around and Tom Servo grunts out the little action tune.


Funky The Monkey - about 5 years ago
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When the Sheriff's hat is down, looks like Joe Don Baker, but with his hat up, Chief O'brian from Star Trek. XD


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"Now he's got an egg-shaped head."
Was that an Agatha Christie reference of all things?!


John Rivett - about 5 years ago
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ZaaT


StartSeeingBenMurphies - over 5 years ago
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Crow has saliva?


mojojojo - over 5 years ago
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Ugh, this movie more than any other is so grimy and gross and sweaty and dirty feeling!!! Putrid Florida air, filthy water, sweaty 70s people, gross sea bugs, the weird yellowy tint............all of it!!! Ech!!!!!

That aside, Mike's Hank Hill-esque "What's THAT all about?" is the best !


Teri Gee - over 6 years ago
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They make comments about how the opening credits say that it was filmed in Switzerland. Today, while I was watching, I noticed that it said all the locations were in Florida. So I did a search and, sure enough, there's a place in Florida called Switzerland. Go figure.


B RYE the MST3K Guy - over 7 years ago
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love this one so much i'll watch it again ....#rewindtime


Daniel Peyser - almost 9 years ago
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I figured for years that if I watched every MST3K I'd eventually find a Phil Ochs reference, because damn that would just be perfectly obscure. And in the first 10 minutes of this episode, there it is.


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Last of the Wild Ponies - over 6 years ago
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"Man, I'm groggy. I just watched an hour of MSNBC."

Who else thought "she" was about to say MST3K?


Last of the Wild Ponies - over 6 years ago
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Say what you want about this movie, but at least the black guy wasn't the *first* to die.


Xterra needs a miracle, every day - almost 9 years ago
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"Y'know, isn't it just possible, you guys, what you want to see is nude WOMEN?"
"Ohhhhhh....maybe, yeah! *ahem* Um... hey Pearl!"

Looks like the 'Bots have a thing for BBWs. :-P


Stereo Catz - almost 9 years ago
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"Like a cat, or an ape."


Big McLargehuge - about 9 years ago
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Damn it! Another fish movie?! Out of all the fish movies, I think this might be the fishiest. Thank god for Crow's awesome Dr. Z skit. SADDLE SOAP! Cleaning compound of DECEIT! I've watched that part like three times already.


Stephen A Nathe - over 6 years ago
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i often feel like skipping this episode when i do my usual run-through of Mike's term...GOD this one sucks so much it turns into a black hole that has a "bitter pill" of a planet caught in perpetual geosynchronous orbit, cause it's actually housing the actual DEVIL, and it takes the Doctor to save us all to fly away while being towed by the Tardis....(*inhales*)...


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NS - about 7 years ago
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As we shimmy on through the sargassum,
It's so hard to control my sarcasm.
Doctor Z's transformations
Cause dumb complications.
What does ZaAt mean? I don't know; you ask 'im.


Bruce Box-Liker - about 7 years ago
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Do you suppose it's a problem that Dr. Z flees into the ocean after transforming himself into a freshwater fish?


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A Silhouette - over 6 years ago
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I cringe when crow mispronounces Basquiat.. Especially because I know that he is able to speak some french


Jenica Burgos - over 8 years ago
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I really hate that "Edward Boy" dies in this movie. He's the only likable character.


James Krummel - about 8 years ago
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Wow. Just an atrocious movie. And what the hell is sargasm? Sheesh. Earned my laugh though and once again it was Tom Servo out of the gate with his riff "I need to simplify my masturbation ritual." Classic.


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32:04: "aaaaand...GO!". That's the second time that happened! Another movie has the swamp-thing coming out of the water after his victim, and the editor botched the cut. In that one, the riff was "aaaaand...ACTION". What is it with editors and swamp monsters?


James GreyWolf - almost 7 years ago
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I gotta say that that is the most ineffective amphibian traveling machine EVER created. Those wheels spinning in water give you NO forward progress.


Kyle Peck - over 7 years ago
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I want to see mermaid Pearl. Man I wish I was a lonely rugged sailor type...


Gal Dagon - about 9 years ago
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Worst. Score. Ever.


The humanity - about 7 years ago
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This is like a demented 'Incredible Mr. Limpet', but only with unlikable characters, irritating synth noises and copious stock footage.


Andy Jones - over 9 years ago
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Great hair, at the walk-in toilet. Who knew grease and dead skin cells could be used to sculpt such a thing?


Rosebud - about 7 years ago
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I can't believe no one drowned making this movie. I cringe every time I see that cage go in the water. Imagine....what a way to go...making the worst movie ever.


Rosebud - about 7 years ago
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The first time the doctor injects himself with that huge needle, the riff is backwards talking. I didn't get that for years, until I saw a making-of for Pulp Fiction. Turns out most "injection" scenes are shot backwards, with a spring loaded needle. Shown in reverse, it looks like the actor is stabbed with the needle. Great obscure riff!


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00:37:17 - Aaand... the "murdered" guy is VISIBLY breathing after the murder! Way to go, Movie!!

[sigh]


James GreyWolf - about 7 years ago
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1:27:10. "Martha, is that you, Martha? Thank God you're alive Martha."

Isn't she his girlfriend? Doncha think he would be pretty sure whether or not it actually was Martha and would not have to ask if it was her?


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MSTeacher3K - about 7 years ago
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1:15:25 Possibly my favorite MST3K quote of all, since it can be applied not only to all the movies they riffed, but people in real life. "I guess I could be stupider, but it'd be hard."


Teri Gee - over 7 years ago
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This movie is one of my unexpected favorites. I watched it not expecting much and by the time it was over, I thought it was one of the best of season 10. The movie is SO incompetently made, but the riffs are SO good and, except for the chewing tobacco thing, all the host segments are perfect (especially SHOE-POLISHING HUMAN! SOON YOU WILL PAY!). This is my sleeper episode. :)


Joseph Ewing - over 7 years ago
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What's the deal with the snow in the yard towards the end? This takes place in Florida.


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I love how Brain Guy and Bobo were so willing to strip down and act out a scene nude with -no -arguments. It's like they were expecting the bots to ask this one day.


Mike Carmona - almost 8 years ago
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I admire Z's ambition to conquer THE UNIVERSE, but he has one hell of a time trying to dominate the county.


Peggy Anderson - almost 8 years ago
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Crow as Dr. Z kills me. "Soon it will be YOU who becomes wedged in the bulkhead--of my PLAN!"


Stephen A Nathe - over 7 years ago
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another one that makes little-to-no sense...
FINE riffing fodder, proving that a lot of movies HAD to be made specifically for getting riffed...


Fuzzy Skinner - over 8 years ago
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Sargassum!


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I love all the host segments in this ep, the final one is so wonderful.

"You're crawling on your belly through the Philipine jungle. Parched, snake-bitten, and near death. But you don't want to leave your twenty foot long party sub behind!"


Teri Gee - about 8 years ago
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That opening scene with Crow chewing tobacco is one I cannot watch. I think it's so disgusting. Pearl's Love Stuff is great, but just thinking about that scene makes me a little queasy.


Sabrina Domingues - almost 8 years ago
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...at just the right moment - ATTACK!


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Damn, this movie is the grossest in every conceivable way. You can practically smell it. ""Please enjoy a fish anus", indeed.


Gal Dagon - about 9 years ago
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Crow was killing it in this episode.


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Man, this is one of the episodes I have to force myself to get through. All the close-ups of underwater life... Even the brief shot of a turtle somehow grosses me out, and I've had a pet turtle. Is it the people of Florida that's made the water so icky, or is it the water that's made the people of Florida so repellant? Damn swamp-hillbillies and their ZaAt!


Zachariah Durr - about 8 years ago
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Now THIS is pain.


Cris Marko - over 8 years ago
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Stage fright, eh?


Cris Marko - over 8 years ago
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Well, I can tell by the pile of cocaine that Lawrence Taylor has been here.


Charles Todd Helton Architect - over 8 years ago
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"Now pull your pants up, and get out of my office!"
I still laugh out loud every time.


Stephen - over 8 years ago
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Host segment at 23:30, Crow sounds just like Murray the Skull from Monkey Island.


Michael S - over 8 years ago
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A truly bad film, complete with pre-bloodied paw/fin/hand...whatever....
I LOVE IT!!


Scott Elliot - over 8 years ago
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Poor, poor Trumpy...the years have not been kind to you, old friend.


Classicats - over 8 years ago
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I can see why the chick with the VW Bug chose to camp there. It's such an inspiring spot, and the water's nice and clear. Great place to wash your clothes.


NS - over 9 years ago
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The original movie is out on Blue-Ray now, under its alternate title of ZAAT.


Andrew Jones - about 9 years ago
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I have seen this one many many times, and the tobacco juice skit still makes me nauseous every time.


starman 76 - over 8 years ago
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on the surface it looks like an animal, like a cat, or an ape


Stereo Catz - almost 9 years ago
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Dr. Z would recover from his injuries only to be killed in a cantina gun fight on the planet Tatooine.


James S - almost 9 years ago
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I'm watching Dr. Z right now and heard the line "Oh man he should go to an underwear fitting clinic" and I decided to google 'underwear fitting clinic' and this page/site was the first result. So I am posting this here.

I like to surf with MST3K on in the background constantly.


Mitchell - over 8 years ago
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OMG- is this one of the best Mike episodes EVER or what?!?!?


Sabrina Domingues - almost 9 years ago
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Did the guy say "tittie fish" around 43:49?


Kelly Slane - almost 9 years ago
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Am I the only one that actually likes the song over the opening credits?


Giraffe Monsoon - almost 9 years ago
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Watching this for the guzillionth time. I love this episode, so funny! The riffing is tremendously well-written and delivered perfectly.
So many good riffs and such a goofy movie that I can watch this often and still laugh every time.


glenn-s - about 9 years ago
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why dose the "monster" look like a seahorse wearing a tutu


Gal Dagon - about 9 years ago
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Barely 10 minutes in and I've got a terrible hankerin' for sushi.


Aethervox@mail.com - over 9 years ago
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I like how, at about 1:14:14, the movie felt it necessary to illustrate a three-point turn for us.